Marto написа:И аз се чудех на какво са базирани тези мнения. Прохибишъна ни даде Ал Капон(е), днешните забрани - колумбийската мафия, главорезите в Мексико, огромен процент от убийствата в гетата, както и много от престъплениятя извън тях. Тази билка май се гледа по-лесно от магданоз и цената ѝ би трябвало да е като на магданоза, но не е едиствено заради криминализацията.roumensp написа:И на какво базират това твърдение ?Павел написа:
There is no way
You cannot simply make a drug legal and expect crime to be reduced. People will still grow and sell marijuana for cheaper prices than what is on the market. Drug dealers will not simply give up their clientele just because of a stupid legalization law. Marijuana is a business that has always been booming. If Marijuana is $20, drug dealers can sell it for $15 and make a lot more money. There will still be crime because marijuana is an addictive substance. People will do whatever it takes to get it.
Случайно да си чул за хора, отглеждащи тютюн по дворовете, за да им е по-евтино и за цигарена мафия и дилъри ?
Цигарите са не по-малко addictive от тревата, но понеже са напълно легални, престъпност свързана с отглеждането и разпространението им не съществува.
Единственото негативно нещо, което евентуално може да се случи при легализация е да се увеличи бройката на използващите наркотици, макар че от опита в Португалия или Холандия, това едва ли ще бъде проблем. Ако някои от тях се пристрастят, кофти, но изборът е бил техен. Днес, обаче, напълно невинни хора стават жертви на престъпления директно предизвикани от криминализацията на наркотиците. За тях ми е по-тъжно.
Между другото и аз мразя как вони тревата и затова реших, че в блок вече никога няма да живея. Хем бяха хубави кондо-та, но всеки ден някой палеше към 18:00.
Ако нещата бяха толкова прости, много развити държави, като например Германия и Швейцария, щяха да одобрят холандския модел - където всъщност са полулегализирани само меките наркотици, без гъбите (същото и в Португалия). Чудя се, защо не легализират и твърдите наркотици, за да се избегне Ал Капне ефект?
В същност, я да видим какво казва укипидията - изчезнала ли е мафията и намалели ли са наркоманите?
Холандия
Despite the high priority given by the Dutch government to fighting illegal drug trafficking, the Netherlands continue to be an important transit point for drugs entering Europe. The Netherlands is a major producer and leading distributor of cannabis, heroin, cocaine, amphetamines and other synthetic drugs, and a medium consumer of illicit drugs. Despite the crackdown by Interpol on traffic and illicit manufacture of temazepam, the country has also become a major exporter of illicit temazepam of the "jelly" variety, trafficking it to the United Kingdom and other European nations.
Results of the drug policy
Criminal investigations into more serious forms of organized crime mainly involve drugs (72%). Most of these are investigations of hard drug crime (specifically cocaine and synthetic drugs) although the number of soft drug cases is rising and currently accounts for 69% of criminal investigations.
Португалия:
In July 2001 a new law maintained the status of illegality for using or possessing any drug for personal use without authorization. The offense was changed from a criminal one, with prison a possible punishment, to an administrative one if the amount possessed was no more than ten days' supply of that substance.[6] This was in line with the de facto Portuguese drug policy before the reform. Drug addicts were then to be aggressively targeted with therapy or community service rather than fines or waivers.[7] Even if there are no criminal penalties, these changes did not legalize drug use in Portugal. Possession has remained prohibited by Portuguese law, and criminal penalties are still applied to drug growers, dealers and traffickers.[8][9]
Regulation[edit]
Individuals found in possession of small quantities of drugs are issued summons. The drugs are confiscated, and the suspect is interviewed by a “Commission for the Dissuasion of Drug Addiction”
The committees have a broad range of sanctions available to them when ruling on the drug use offence. These include:
Fines, ranging from €25 to €150. These figures are based on the Portuguese minimum wage of about €485 (Banco de Portugal, 2001) and translate into hours of work lost.
Suspension of the right to practice if the user has a licensed profession (e.g. medical doctor, taxi driver) and may endanger another person or someone's possessions.
Ban on visiting certain places (e.g. specific discothèques)
Ban on associating with specific other persons.
Foreign travel ban.
Requirement to report periodically to the committee.
Withdrawal of the right to carry a gun.
Confiscation of personal possessions.
Law enforcement
Every year, Portuguese law enforcement bodies confiscate several tonnes of cocaine, with a record amount of more than 34.5 tonnes seized in 2006. A regular increase in quantities of cannabis resin seized could also be observed over recent years, though there has been a recent decline between 2008 (61 tonnes) and 2009 (23 tonnes).[6]
Observation
There is little reliable information about drug use, injecting behaviour or addiction treatment in Portugal before 2001, when general population surveys commenced. Before that, there was the indicators on lifetime prevalence amongst youth, collected as part of the European School Survey Project on Alcohol and Other Drugs (ESPAD), and some other (less reliable) data available through the EMCDDA.[13]
Thorough studies on how the various efforts have been implemented were not conducted. Thus, a causal effect between strategy efforts and these developments cannot be firmly established.[8] There are, however, statistical indicators that suggest the following correlations between the drug strategy and the following developments, from July 2001 up to 2007:
Increased uptake of treatment.[8]
Reduction in new HIV diagnoses amongst drug users by 17%[14]
Reduction in drug related deaths, although this reduction has decreased in later years. The number of drug related deaths is now almost on the same level as before the Drug strategy was implemented.[8][14] However, this may be accounted for by improvement in measurement practices, which includes a doubling of toxicological autopsies now being performed, meaning that more drugs related deaths are likely to be recorded.[15]
Reported lifetime use of "all illicit drugs" increased from 7.8% to 12%, lifetime use of cannabis increased from 7.6% to 11.7%, cocaine use more than doubled, from 0.9% to 1.9%, ecstasy nearly doubled from 0.7% to 1.3%, and heroin increased from 0.7% to 1.1%[14] It has been proposed that this effect may have been related to the candor of interviewees, who may have been inclined to answer more truthfully due to a reduction in the stigma associated with drug use.[15] However, during the same period, the use of heroin and cannabis also increased in Spain and Italy, where drugs for personal use was decriminalised many years earlier than in Portugal [15][16] while the use of Cannabis and heroin decreased in the rest of Western Europe.[17][18]
Drug use among adolescents (13-15 yrs) and "problematic" users declined.[15]
Drug-related criminal justice workloads decreased [15]
Decreased street value of most illicit drugs, some significantly.[15]
Legal status of cannabis in Portugal
Consumption and possession[edit]
In Portugal, recreational use of cannabis is forbidden by law; also the medicinal use is not yet officially recognized (there is debate and legislators have proposed bills in the Portuguese Parliament). Portugal signed all the UN conventions on narcotics and psychotropic to date. With the 2001 decriminalization bill, the consumer is now regarded as a patient and not as a criminal (having the amount usually used for ten days of personal use is not a punishable crime) but repression persists. One can be sent to a dissuasion committee and have a talk or must pay a fee. According to the libertarian think tank Cato Institute, illegal drug use among Portuguese teenagers declined after 2001, and 45 percent of the country's heroin addicts sought medical treatment. But critics of the policy, such as the Association for a Drug-Free Portugal, say overall consumption of drugs in the country has actually risen by 4.2 percent since 2001 and claim the benefits of decriminalization are being "over-egged."
Cultivation and distribution
The cultivation of cannabis, even if in very small-scale home grow for personal use only, can legally be prosecuted. However, an unknown number of enthusiasts of small-scale home growing grow the plants with a high degree of secrecy due to the legal punishment they could face if persecuted and due to potential social stigma as well. In neighbouring Spain, small-scale cultivation of cannabis plants for personal use only is tolerated by the authorities and there are many grow shops across that country selling their products both physically and online. In 2003 another update to the "Portuguese drugs law" brought the criminalization of the possession of cannabis seeds, except certified industrial hemp seed. This law made the buying of cannabis seeds from legal and financially transparent online cannabis seed shops based in other European Union member states, such as neighbouring Spain or The Netherlands, an unlawful transaction when performed by a Portuguese residing in Portugal. The provision of seeds and tools to produce and consume cannabis etc. is also illegal in the country. Production and distribution of hemp products is legal but regulated. There are a few hemp shops in Portugal and hemp products are legal.
И дали живеене в къща винаги гарантира чист от марихуана въздух, освен ако не живееш в ранчо насред полето, без съседи поне на 50 метра?
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